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Charles Hambleton CRYMES - extracts from the 1909 Divorce Trial
These extracts give some idea of the range of witnesses called in the trial, and the manner in which Charles Hambleton CRYMES responded to the accusations against him.
Counsel: | What did you say in reference to Mr. Crymes? |
Mrs. Murray: | I told her that a lady had warned me that he was not a good man, and I warned her |
Counsel: | People came to see you about the infamous charge you made against Mr. Crymes, and you withdrew it |
Mrs. Murray: | I did not withdraw it |
Counsel: | Did you write a letter to the Rector, who came and saw you about it? |
Mrs. Murray: | Yes |
Counsel: | And after hearing all you had to say was the Rector satisfied there was no imputation upon Mr. Crymes? |
Mrs. Murray: | The Rector, as he left, placed his fingers on his lips, which I took to mean that I was to say nothing |
Counsel: | Have you ever seen any act of familiarity between Mr. Crymes and Mrs. Kemp-Welch? |
Mrs. Etherington: | Yes, I have seen her sitting on his knee |
Counsel: | How often? |
Mrs. Etherington: | I cannot say how many times. It was in the dining-room, on the sofa |
Counsel: | What did she say? |
Mrs. Etherington: | Oh - 'Absurd, ridiculous, nonsense'. I told her I would not go there again |
Counsel: | Mrs. Murray, who was your next door neighbour, says that she has seen Mr. Crymes leaving you house between 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning |
Mrs. K-W: | It is not true |
Counsel: | Can you give us any reason why Mrs. Murray should make up that story? |
Mrs. K-W: | No, I cannot |
Counsel: | Is it a fact that both your relatives and those of your husband thought it unwise that Mr. Crymes should be on such terms of intimacy? |
Mrs. K-W: | I think they said something about it |
Counsel: | You would not do anything to compromise a lady's honour? |
CHC: | Not knowingly |
Counsel: | You were married in 1894, and your wife left you in 1895 after a child had been born? |
CHC: | Yes |
Counsel: | Was a second child born eight months after she left you? |
CHC: | Yes |
Counsel: | That child is still living with her mother? |
CHC: | I can't say. I have not seen them for 10 years. I last saw them when Mrs. Crymes came back to me for a month |
Counsel: | When you were a curate at St. Mary Magdalene, Paddington, did you pass as a widower? |
CHC: | Most certainly not |
Counsel: | Did the Vicar tell you to leave suddenly? |
CHC: | Certainly not |
Counsel: | Do you know this gentleman? (pointing to an elderly man in court) |
CHC: | No, I do not |
Counsel: | Do you know that lady? (handing up a piece of paper with a name written on it) |
CHC: | I did |
Counsel: | Is that lady a relative of the gentleman?" |
CHC: | I can't say. I don't recognise him |
Counsel: | Did not the Vicar tell you to leave in consequence of complaints made by this gentleman, who said that he would speak to the Bishop unless you left? |
CHC: | Certainly not |
Counsel: | Do you still repeat your denial? |
CHC: | Yes |
Counsel: | (Handing up another piece of paper) While you were there was there trouble over this lady also? |
CHC: | Certainly not |
Counsel: | Did you not pass yourself as a widower, and was there not a scandal because you were about to lunch with this lady? |
CHC: | Certainly not |
Counsel: | I put it to you that it was in consequence of this that the Bishop asked that your wife should return to you. |
CHC: | No |
Counsel: | Did you take this photograph? |
CHC: | I did not take it, to my knowledge |
Counsel: | You swear you did not take it? |
CHC: | I do not remember taking it |
The Judge: | This is a serious matter. If you are committing perjury you may be tried for it elsewhere |
CHC's Counsel: | My lord, I respectfully suggest that it is undesirable - |
The Judge: | (breaking in very warmly): I will not be lectured even by such an eminent
member of the Bar as yourself, Sir Edward. I am cautioning the witness |
CHC's Counsel: | But to suggest to him that he may be tried elsewhere - |
The Judge: | I am entitled to suggest to him the seriousness of his position. It is not a threat. It is a caution |
CHC: | I know nothing about the photograph |
The Judge: | That is a proper answer |
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